Roman Legion vs Vikings: who would win? The Kopis, an alternative to the Xiphos some Spartans selected the dreaded Kopis as their secondary weapon. Download it once and read it on your Kindle device, PC, phones or tablets. Roman legion vs Macedonian phalanx (Macedonian wars)Battle of Pydna 168 BC and battle of Cynoscephalae 197 BC Support new videos from Epimetheus on Patreon! Use features like bookmarks, note taking and highlighting while reading Legion versus Phalanx: The Epic Struggle for Infantry Supremacy in the Ancient World. Andrew Stewart (author) from England on April 02, 2014: Thanks for the feedback Trax, appreciate the information! Damit ist der 3. This tough-love approach is effectively a basic form of eugenics policy, only the strongest will survive and they would be expected to continue Sparta's mighty military exploits. By the time Rome came into power, Sparta was pretty much gone. What I am unable to factor in is variables such as fatigue, morale, the experience of battle and what they are fighting for. Owing to the shortness of the blade the Spartan had to react to the opponent's aggression rather than attack long-distance and telegraph his attack. And at the beginning of the battle, the Macedonian Phalanx did succeed in pushing back the Roman Legions, but without good support troops guarding the flanks, the Macedonian Phalanx was susceptible to being out-flanked by the more nimble and flexible Roman Legions, and they WERE out-flanked. Such a comparison is somewhat ridiculous, one only has to look at the absolute dominance of the Roman Military to conclude that they are superior. In fact he has roared … Continue reading "Book Review: Legion Versus Phalanx by Myke Cole." No Sparturion. Another way to become a Legionnaire was if he was an auxiliary attached to a legion in the occupied territories. Another thing this doesn't take into account is that the roman legionnaire was a professional swords men and that the spartan formation would of lost shields because the way the roman spears were designed. So by a small amount the Roman soldier should defeat a Spartan Warrior in the field of battle. He may have committed a crime and was offered the chance to use his life as a soldier rather than face a horrible death by execution. The Ninja was not a warrior who fought in plain sight, so the choice did not seem a good pairing. The Spartans used the traditional greek phalanx and could easily be beaten by flanking attacks. !!! These guys were good- and they knew it. Second point of the xiphos. The legionaries big advantage is they can maneuver far better than a phalanx can during a battle. I find major flaws in everyone's reasoning. Spartans lost from the Theban "oblique" phalanx.Its evolution,the Macedonian Phalanx, crushed the Thebans.And the Roman legion in most occasions won the phallanx (it lost sometimes though,f.e. The Spartan Shield is as strong or stronger than a post Battle of Carrhae Roman Shield. They used the "checkerboard" formation … Schon während des Krieges gegen Hannibal hatte Perseus‘ Vater Philipp V. gegen die Römer gekämpft. Einige von Roms Bundesgenossen suchen ihr Heil in der Flucht. This would entitle him to a legion pension and land to farm at the end of his service. They did not have a lot of coverage and as the armour was made of bronze it would have weighed a fair amount. The US Marine fitness programme is based on the Spartan's brutal training principle, although slaughtering an innocent member of the serving class at graduation is not recommended. It was standard practice for a noble son of Sparta to be taken away from his family at the age of eight. The earliest soldiers of the Roman army were hoplites. Our last article about who would win in a battle between a Roman Legion and a Greek Phalanx has been such a success that we’ve decided to continue the series. Sparta, unlike the other Greek city-states, was centered around a warrior culture. All of this to teach these boys survival and proficient fighting skills. He may sign up to be a Legionnaire so that he could get Roman citizenship. kam es bei Pydna zur Entscheidungsschlacht. The Roman formation was way more flexible and so could manage changes in the terrain more effectively than the phalanx could. Sources: Ancient texts and a degree in ancient warfare and geopolitics. The two terms aren’t exactly comparable. Like the Spartans, the Legionnaire would be trained repeatedly in Roman tactics and strategies. Spear: The Spartan used their long spears to inflict mass casualties from behind their wall of bronze shields. Sweeping an enemy off their feet wasn't hard to do either. In diese stoßen die Legionäre vor und greifen die Makedonen von der Seite und dem Rücken aus an. I have decided to compare the Spartan warrior against one of Rome's finest Legionnaires. After all, the Roman Legionary was able to defeat the Macedonian Phalanx. No variations for Spartans. It was a leaf shaped straight sword which couldn't really reach around a shield. The victorious Romans recruited betallions of the few remaining Spartans after they controlled southern Greece and gave them special status in the Roman Legions. 168 v. Chr. They aren't only masters at their craft of fighting, they are masters of their small arsenal. The Spartan warrior underwent a decade of tests, to ensure that his endurance and character were worthy of his position in the elite of his people's army. The strength of the Roman legion over the phalanx was less an advantage in weaponry, than it was an advantage in formation flexibility. Google the pre-marian battle tactics to see how smart the Romans were. In contrast, a phalanx only really works when the entire army is in one cohesive formation. Or he may have been a slave sold into the Roman Legion after he had been abducted from his homeland. Bei Pydna trafen die beweglichen römischen Manipel auf die starre Front der Makedonischen Phalanx, Münze des Königs Perseus von Makedonien (213/212-165 v. Die dynamische, aggressive und auf Auflösung von Abwehrformationen angelegte Kampftaktik der Legionen, so der Historiker Armin Eich, wird Rom in den folgenden zwei Jahrhunderten die Weltherrschaft sichern. See more ideas about ancient warfare, ancient warriors, ancient war. Das Königreich Makedonien wird in vier unabhängige Regionen aufgeteilt und einige Jahre später als Provinz ins Römische Reich eingegliedert. Chr. In a kind of homage to the television series. Wie bei Kynoskephalai vertrauen die Makedonen auf ihre traditionelle Sarissenphalanx (Sarisse = Lanze), die schon die Hauptwaffe Alexanders gewesen war, während die Römer auf ihre flexible Manipular-Taktik setzen, die sie gegen die Karthager perfektioniert haben. He deduces that the Romans refused to fight the phalanx where the phalanx was effective, Romans offered battle only when a legion could exploit the clumsiness and immobility of a phalanx. Also covering from torso to knee when semi0crouched for a phalanx(pay attention to that coverage, that'll be important later). Perseus, der 179 seinem Vater auf dem Thron nachfolgt, macht sich daran, die alte Stellung des Reiches zu restaurieren. Whereas when King Perseus fought the Roman Legions at Pydna, he had forsaken the Combined Arms approach and reverted back to a full Phalanx force, the kind of force his ancestor King Alexander had defeated many a times with his Combined Arms approach. Census data from the Roman Kingdom shows that the soldiers were Hoplites in a Phalanx. When the Sarissas act as an anvil to the Macedonian Cavalry's hammer, nothing could stand in its way. People argue that a Xiphos is like a Gladius, but with weaker stabbing power, that's not true. Second to last point, Spartan's size and strength. It can shatter bones, destroy spinal columns, knock a human's skull so hard, it can kill in one blow (although a Spartan's arsenal are all for the most part, one hit, one kill weapons), it even had two straps on the inside for more maneuverability (it's big, but manageable, circular shape helped with that- and it's killing power). Even if this was an army vs army battle, it's not like the Spartans would just let an enemy flank them, they were soldiers, not stupid. 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